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Er barnevernloven grunnlovsstridig?
Ja, § 4-3 strider mot Grunnlovens forbud mot vilkårlige hus-inkvisisjoner 86%  86%  [ 6 ]
Nei, siden barnevernloven er lovlig vedtatt av Stortinget kan den ikke være grunnlovsstrid 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Vet ikke, for ennå har ingen fremmet sak for domstolene 14%  14%  [ 1 ]
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 Post subject: Tomtefesteloven grunnlovstridig
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Oslo tingrett mener at den nye tomtefesteloven med to av de mest fundamentale paragrafene i Grunnloven.

Grunnloven sier at ingen lover kan gis tilbakevirkende kraft. Et annet sted sier den at alle har rett på full erstatning hvis staten tar din private eiendom.

Tomtefestelovens regel om at tomtefestere kan kreve å forlenge kontraktene sine inn i evigheten strider med begge disse prinsippene, mener Oslo tingrett.

Det store spørsmålet Høyesterett nå må besvare blir dermed: Hvem bestemmer hva som er i tråd med Grunnloven? Er det domstolene? Eller Stortinget?

Dette er en klar parallel til barnevernloven, som inneholder en paragraf om at ingen kan motsette seg at barnevernet foretar såkalt undersøkelse ved å komme på hjemmebesøk.

§ 4-3. Rett og plikt for barneverntjenesten til å foreta undersøkelser

Foreldrene eller den barnet bor hos, kan ikke motsette seg at en undersøkelse som nevnt i første ledd blir gjennomført ved besøk i hjemmet.

Dette er i strid med Grunnlovens § 102 som sier at:

Hus-Inkvisitioner maa ikke finde Sted, uden i kriminelle Tilfælde.

I likhet med den nye tomtefesteloven er barnevernloven vedtatt av Stortinget, men ennå har ingen prøvet om barnevernloven er grunnlovsstridig.

Det skal bli spennende å se utfallet av striden om tomtefesteloven. Dersom Høyesterett kommer til at tomtefesteloven er grunnlovsstridig, bør det være å håpe at noen også vil prøve om barnevernloven er grunnlovsstridig, noe den utvilsomt er.

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 Post subject: Tomtefestedom rammer tusener
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Onsdagens tomtefestedom fra Oslo tingrett gjør at vil bli lagt på is inntil den saken er avgjort. - Dette må rett til Høyesterett fortest mulig, mener Tomtefesterforbundet.

Også barnevernloven rammer titusener av saker - barnevernssaker - hvor barnevernet trenger seg inn i private hjem etter løst funderte anklager om såkalt omsorgssvikt.

Er det mer alvorlig å miste fast eiendom enn å bli fratatt privatliv og egne barn?

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Jeg har allerede for en god stund siden henvist til en kjennelse i Strasbourg den 6. januar 2006:



Klageren har fått sin sak "admissible", det vil si at den går til domstolen, hvis ikke staten får dysset det ned ved å få til et forlik med en symbolsk erstatning e.l.

Saken gjelder at barnevernet har kommet på utallige besøk uten saklig grunnlag.

Det har undret meg litt at ingen har kastet seg over denne kjennelsen før, den er en riktig sviske. Advokaten sitter i Stavanger, han er opprindelig amerikaner, og virker absolutt all right og på hugget.

  

   

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