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Mani Shankar Aiyar:

The Week - columns, 15 November 2015

"My hope is that as the Bhattacharya case has been supplemented by similar cases in several western countries, the Indian government should seriously consider an understanding, protocol, agreement or treaty with these countries, bilaterally or through the UN Commission on Human Rights, to sort out these issues so that parents and their children are not arbitrarily sentenced to the hell on earth of a lifetime of separation."

"A huge rumpus has blown up in the Czech Republic over similar treatment meted out to a Czech couple and their two sons. The president of the Czech Republic, no less, has responded to shocked public sentiment by cancelling the Norwegian envoy's invitation to the celebration of the anniversary of the creation of Czechoslovakia."

"There is also a growing network of Norwegian families who are joining the gathering worldwide movement. Nehru’s India would have leveraged such worldwide concern into a non-aligned initiative to recast child protection laws that need to be reconsidered in the light of implementation. A beginning has to be made somewhere, and I can think of no more opportune a moment than the visit of the Norwegian minister to India."




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Mr Aiyar's encouragement of an international initiative is very much to the point. It is to be hoped that politicians and officials in different countries affected by Western style 'child protection' go in that direction. And Norway should certainly be made an example of at an early stage.

    

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My comment to the article discusses why the political development in Norway has squeezed the family. As well as what is about to happen.

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In Norway we have a nasty tradition of "goodness" in the service of moralism.

This tradition has united with some newer "phenomena". Leftists believe it to be liberating for women to work in the enormous public sector that Norway has got. Jobs make us world champions in "women's liberation". It is a liberation of women that increases women's suicide.

The capitalists, on their side, need a work-force. Norway has since the 1970's had oil as an energy source and has also needed many jobs. This makes for a national economy forcing both parents away from the children. The family is placed under great pressure both as regards money and time. The latest from the circles of private industry is business organised as limited companies which make money out of the foster-child industry.

Between these two blocs in Norwegian politics, we find politicians with a strong belief in decentralisation policies. Agriculture needs support and receives important subsidisation from the state. In this perspective, the foster-home industry can be "useful" too, in that people in rural areas, including farmers, get an extra income from keeping other people's children.

The trade unions are strong in Norway, and defend the jobs in the foster industry.

The media asks public employees what is right in issues that come up. The public sector is sort of the holders of objective truth - in addition to being close politically to the unions and the party that has held most power after the second world war.

The families are run over completely in all this. A rule of expertise not based on scientific evidence, technocratic power, the power of economic capital, and the public sector, all de-contextualise the children from their parents. The children exist for the benefit of the schools, the psychologists, the child protection units, the foster parents, etc.

What remains to be done then is to muzzle the families' right to free speech. Our legislators are working on this already. I have taken up the issues relating to freedom of utterance in these articles:

The media gives victims of the social services “the silent treatment”
http://www.pravasitoday.com/the-media-g ... rild-holta

The fight against freedom of expression by the state, the municipalities and the unions
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(Former oil minister strongly opposes Norwegian child protection)
Frie Ytringer (Free Utterances) – Jan Simonsen's blog, 11 December 2015


Mr Aiyar's article has been taken up on Jan Simonsen's blog, which brings the Norwegian trasnslation of it. Simonsen writes as introduction:

"Den tidligere diplomaten og indiske oljeministeren Mani Shankar Aiyar går i en artikkel i en indisk avis publisert for et par uker siden, kraftig ut mot det norske barnevernet. Under overskriften «norske ikke-mennesker» viser han til at den nåværende indiske utenriksministeren tidligere har kritisert det norske barnevernet kraftig.
    Han håper nå at India vil støtte Tsjekkia i saken til den tsjekkiske moren som har mistet sine to tsjekkiske barn til norske fosterforeldre."

(Former diplomat and Indian Oil Minister Mani Shankar Aiyar, in an article published in an Indian newspaper a couple of weeks ago, takes strong exception to the Norwegian system of child protection. Under the heasding "Norwegian non-humans" he points out that the present Indian Foreign Minister has previously criticised Norwegian child protection strongly.
    He now hopes that India will support the Czech Republic in the case of the Czech mother who has lost her two Czech children to Norwegian foster parents.")

  
  

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