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Tre domstoler i Tyrkia har kommet til samme resultat: Norsk rettsvesen sin befatning med guttene og biologisk familie er tvilsom. Barnevernet blir oppfattet som verre enn uprofesjonelt.

Ankepunkter mot såkalt barnevern.

• To fosterbarn har beskyldt fosterfaren for seksuelle overgrep, inkludert en voldtekt.
• Kvaliteten på fosterpersonene kan, om mulig, måles i følelsesmessig tilknytningen til tidligere fosterbarn. Disse anmelder fosterpersonene!

De tyrkisk-norske barna er frarøvet
• omtrent all kontakt med sine foreldre på subjektivt grunnlag. Uten påviselig grov omsorgsvikt.
• sin biologiske slekt. Tvert i mot menneskerettigheter, skikk og bruk.
• sin tro. Tvert imot menneskerettigheter og normal folkeskikk.
• all kulturell bakgrunn.

For å si det mildt: Saken mer enn stinker av overgrep mot barn og biologisk familie.

Advokat Nils Geir Vestvik
Når tyrkiske myndigheter viser handlingskraft og setter foten ned, så kaller Vestvik det for kidnapping! Hvem er det imidlertid som er overgriper i utgangspunktet? Hvem har tatt barna på den sedvanlige norske subjektive måten? Hvem er kidnapperne om ikke aktørene i landet som er dømt for brudd på menneskerettighetene i barnevernsaker. Når har Norge tatt et oppgjør med barnefjernpolitikken det ble dømt for?

Nettavisen
- Kan havne i institusjon, skriver nettavisen. Blir en institusjon til en ikke-institusjon om man betaler et samboerpar for å være institusjon for barn? Familier har alltid vert institusjoner, naturlige sådanne. Fosterpersoner er i denne sammenheng oppkonstruerte institusjoner.

Tillit tross ødelagte relasjoner
til tidligere fosterbarn

Da samboerparet har vert fosterpersoner tidligere, kan man enkelt sjekke kvaliteten på forholdet til tidligere fosterbarn. Barnevernet hevder imidlertid at fosterpersonene har deres fulle tillit. Tross beskyldninger om seksuelt misbruk og tilsynelatende full konflikt.

- Vi mener kjennelsen ikke er juridisk basert, ei heller etter tyrkisk lovgivning. Begrunnelsene er totalt fraværende, og det er ikke realisme i de beslutningene som foreligger. Dette sier Vestvik til .

Det norske verdensmesterkomplekset som rir barnevernsmyndigheter som en mare, er visst så mye mer realistisk.

Etter de norske bruddene på menneskerettighetene og overgrepene mot den biologiske familie, foreldre og barn, så hevder Vestvik at Tyrkia bryter menneskerettighetene.

Det er noe som ikke rimer, og det sitter hos de som ble kåret til . De er fyldig omtalt på og andre steder på sitt forum.

har om saken.

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Jaså, det skal ifølge barnevernet være så skrekkelig at guttene "risikerer" å bli plassert på institusjon i Tyrkia.

Men det norske barnevernet plasserer norske barn, også ganske små, på institusjoner villig vekk. Og institusjonene er ikke mindre av et mareritt i dag enn de var for en generasjon siden. Barnevernet later naturligvis som om de er det, men fra en rad barnevernssaker vet vi sandelig bedre. De er barnefengsler, fryktelig skremmende for barn, og barna der er utsatt for vold og overgrep, både av andre barn og av de voksne, i langt høyere grad enn i biologisk hjem.

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