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Jeg deler den skepsisen til FN.

Premisser:
1. Hva er "faglig in".
2. Hvilken posisjon den statstro venstrevridde tenkningen har i verden.
3. Hvilken posisjon har den familiefientlige feminismen i mange (inkl. mange rike) land?
4. Hva med den gammelmodige sosiologien, som langt på vei er liksom-vitenskapelig forsvar for sosialdemokrati?
5. etc

Det er vanskelig å konkludere med annet enn at FN bør man være skeptisk til. Det er et produkt av statene og tanker i tiden.

Likevel vil FN være en brems på "sære geografiske menneskerettighetsbrudd".

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Misbruket springer vel blant annet ut av at det heter seg at barnet skal vokse opp i et familiemiljø, ikke i sitt familiemiljø.

Ja, de fleste land tar den biologiske families betydning som selvsagt, og er såre forundet og forskrekket over den idé at man kan konstruere en familie for et barn ut av hvilke som helst individer som man omgir barnet med.

Men kanskje nettopp fordi de tar den biologiske familie som selvsagt, er de ofte ikke mentalt og argumentasjonsmessig forberedt til å argumentere mot sosionomismens "familie som sosial konstruksjon". De himler med øynene.

Det ligner litt på våre stortingsrepresentanter. De sier og skriver at Stortinget mener det har en egenverdi å vokse opp hos sine egne foreldre. Men jeg har aldri truffet en stortingsrepresentant som har noe annet enn vage følelser av hvorfor. Og mangelen på innsikt og viten gjør at de er hjelpeløse og uinteresserte når barnevernsaktørene presser på for at fosterfamilier og adopsjon er minst like godt, og at motstand mot det bare beror på fordommer.

Nå er jeg slett ikke imot at vi skal bruke også FN's barnekonvensjon til å støtte opp om vår sak. Vi må bare være på vakt overfor de sterke statskrefter som er motstandere av alt det vi står for, og som bruker den samme konvensjon mot oss. Den er et potensielt tveegget sverd.

  

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Enig, og da burde vi faktisk bruke den, ved å argumentere mot misbruket. Det kan godt hende at selv diktaturer verden rundt ville bli forarget over tilsidesettelsen av familien på den måte det foregår her.

  

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