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This table has the (assessed) number of participants in the right hand column. The overview is, however, not quite updated, but it is still useful.

People who take part in demonstrations which only draw a dozen people or two, easily get discouraged and think it is all a waste, but we should extra glad of their participation. It takes no courage to take part when you are with several hundred others, but the protesters in the small demonstrations – they are the pioneers! Announcing on the internet that there has been a demo, encourages others and makes finding new friends and allies possible.
Everything has to have a start!

Anti-CPS demonstrations in Norway have had just a dozen people or even less than that, for years. It is only over the last couple of years that they have grown, and many who have taken part have then been foreigners!
  
  
  

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More announced demonstrations


22. Houston, Texas, USA – 6 February 2016, at 3401 W. Dallas

23. San Francisco, California, USA – 13 February 2016, at 575 Market Street


It has been announced that no demonstrations will be announced for the period between 1 March and 16 April. On 16 April, however, it is planned that there will be coordinated demonstrations in several countries and cities / towns.

    

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Demonstrations on 30 January 2016:


Melbourne:    About 400 protesters in Melbourne, Australia



(Large demonstration against Norway in Melbourne)
VG, 30 January 2016

Iasi:    4000 protesters in Iasi, Romania




Sibiu:    5000 protesters in Sibiu, Romania






Bistrita:    1500 protesters in Bistrita-Nasaud, Romania


    
Baia Mare:    2500 protesters in Baia Mare, Romania
  (in support for Marius and Ruth Bodnariu, Nan family, Avramenscu family and in solidarity with all families who are victims of Barnevernet abuses)


Cluj-Napoca:    1500 protesters in Cluj-Napoca, Romania, second protest


Castellon:    600 protesters in Castellon, Spain



Warszawa, Polen - 20 protesters
  
  
  

  

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Demonstrations on 31 January 2016:


New Delhi og Kolkata:    1-2 dozen or so participants in each of the places New Delhi and Kolkata, India
(the pictures are both from Delhi and Kolkata)

An account from New Delhi: They knew there would not be many people, but those that were there listened very attentively. There were several very good speeches (from well-informed people). The police too, who were there by arrangement because it was an announced demonstration, listened closely. The police women were very upset and said "We would give our lives for our children!" and "How can there be such a system abroad?"
    They had a little puppet show on the theme "Mother's Love".
    At the end they went to the Norwegian Embassy and handed over their signed protest posters to an Embassy official. They also went to the US Embassy (there have been several cases in which Indians in the USA have been deprived of their children by American CPS).


Videos:
(Texted in English)



    (Nandita Rao was Sagarika Chakreborti's lawyer in India, when Sagarika succeeded in getting her children back)
(in Hindi, English texting below)

(English, also texting below)

(Hindi, English texting below)
(Hindi, English texting below)

Before Dr Ashis Nandy's speech, Suranya Aiyar said:
"The well-known Indian public intellectual, Dr Ashis Nandy, on the ideology of childhood at an Anti-CPS protest in Jantar Mantar, New Delhi on 31 January 2016. Dr Nandy is a sociologist and clinical psychologist. In this address, Dr Nandy reveals the hostility and fear of children in their natural state - in their childishness and dependence - that is latent in modern, Westernised thinking towards children. It is this anti-child ideology that lies at the heart of the child protection system of the West. He also identifies the roots of this system in Western imperialism."

Re Madhu Kishwar's speech:
“What we are doing the poor in the name of protecting their children” Madhu Kishwar at a protest at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi against confiscation of children by the State from loving families in the name of “child protection”. Madhu Kishwar is a well-known Indian public intellectual. She is an academic, writer and Founder President of Manushi, a civil rights and social justice advocacy group.
In this address, Madhu Kishwar describes the plight of the “Nat” communities, impoverished wandering folk-dancers, -musicians and players in India, being targeted and having their children snatched by the State, and the parents subjected to criminal proceedings under anti-beggary laws. This system follows the same pattern of stigmatisation of vulnerable families, abusing parents and children instead of helping them, misuse of official power and the network of corruption and fraud that feeds upon such child protection laws, that we see in the Western child protection system. More proof that it has been a mistake to use the State machinery in this manner to intervene for the protection of children, and that the entire model of child welfare, whether here in India or in the developed world, has to be re-thought."


Re Mani Shankar Aiyar's speech:
Note to friends abroad: in this speech in Hindi, the case of the mother being told not to have another child on pain of Social Services taking it away at birth refers to the Baby No Name Case in England. "Sagarika" is the mother in the Bhattacharya Case in Norway and in Part II, the Czech case of the Michalak boys regarding whom the Czech President intervened is described. The speaker also informs the gathering that he has met with the Norwegian Ambassador in New Delhi and submitted a proposal that children from foreign families confronted by Barnevernet should be immediately repatriated to their native countries.

Re Sonal Mansingh's speech:
"Thank Heavens, Norway wasn't there to drag Yashoda off!" says famous Indian Classical Dancer and cultural icon, Sonal Mansingh at Anti-CPS protest at Jantar Manter, New Delhi on 31 January 2016. You can tell she is a dancer from the expressive hand gestures. Thank you Sonal Mansingh for this fitting riposte to the arrogance and inhumanity of the Western system, especially of Norway!
A brief summary for those unfamiliar with Hindi:
English at 5 seconds; 23 seconds; 1.12 minu...tes; 1.31 minutes; 2.07 minutes; 3.07 minutes; 3.30 minutes; 4.07 minutes. Must watch for anti-CPS activists!
She starts by describing the legends of the God Krishna as a child stealing butter and breaking pots in the village, and his mother Yashoda scolding and spanking him. "Thank Heavens, Norway wasn't here to drag Yashoda off!" she says, to laughs from the audience. "Our civilisation, our culture, our world view, our understanding of love, is totally different and if foreign countries don't understand that, let them come here and learn about us." "They should learn from India how to love your children".
""This is demonic!" she says of confiscation of children by the State from loving families in Western child protection system, calling for such countries to be denounced and penalised. "They have totally given up on human values and have no right to point fingers at other country on basis of human rights". She ends by calling upon those gathered to spread awareness of this injustice, so that the entire nation raises its voice against it."


Suranya Aiyar has added:
"Note: In reference to the points about co-sleeping and the type of discipline demanded in the raising of children in the West in general and in particular by child welfare authorities, it may be noted that a recommended practice in modern, Westernised infant care is to “sleep train” infants, where parents are advised to teach the baby from birth to fall asleep by itself using the “cry-it-out” method, which, as its name suggests, involves leaving the baby alone to sleep by itself and ignoring its wailing (sometimes for hours on end) till it falls exhausted to sleep. Popular baby books admonish the mother and father not to give in to their feelings by rushing to comfort the baby. The Baby Whisperer, a hugely successful baby book even advices that if a baby is ill and wakes up crying, the parent should walk in to administer pain-relief medicine without showing much emotion, tell it to go back to sleep alone in as matter-of-fact way as possible, and briskly leave the room, or else the illness will undue the sleep training of the baby. In this same book, the author complains that family holidays are a problem as the children have to be re-trained to the home routine on return! In Western English-speaking cultures, infants are commonly talked of as “manipulating” their care givers by crying or fussing. As regards hand-feeding, in the Bhattacharya case in Norway, the inquiries from the school which ultimately reported the family to Barnevernet, started with complaints that the son, then about 2 years old, was not learning to eat by himself, and was hand fed by the mother when she came for parent-and-child days. In the Chadrasekhar Case, another case involving an Indian family in Norway, the inquiries started with the school complaining that the boy was not following the school routine. In the Bodnariu Case in Norway, one of the criticisms from the school was that the girls were more high spirited than the others in school. In England, parents are routinely declared unfit because they adjudged as not capable of “laying boundaries” with their children. In the US system, not having a crib in the home (which is often the case in Indian homes as the norm is for the baby to sleep with the parents in the same bed) is reported against the parents by child protection inspectors, and in case management sessions with child protection officials, parents are told that the authorities do not approve of “co-sleeping”. A few years ago in India, foreign child protection NGOs tried to persuade the Indian Women and Child Ministry to issue a notice to all schools in India to tell parents not to have their children sleep in the same bed with them."

  

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Updated list of demonstrations scheduled for February


22. – 6 February 2016, 10:00 am, at 3401 W. Dallas

23. San Francisco, California, USA – 13 February 2016, at 575 Market Street, outside the Norwegian consulate

24. – 7 February 2016, 12:15 pm

25. – 6 February 2016, 11:00 am

26. – 6 February 2016, 11:00 am

27.  – 7 February 2016

28.  – 20 February 2016 kl 12 noon - 2 pm, Jungfernstieg - at Flaggenplatz

  

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A fine video from several demonstrations:  

(This is what Norwegian media and parliamentary politicians keep quiet about)
Stopp Barnevernet og Norges Menneskerettsbrudd, 2 February 2016


Norge bryter en av de mest grunnleggende menneskerettigheter.

"Jeg har fått innsyn i en verden jeg ikke trodde kunne eksistere i en moderne rettsstat.".
-Einar Salvesen - Psykolog

"La hele verden få vite hva som foregår i Norge"
-Europaparlamentet

"Norsk barnevern tar mange barn fra sine foreldre uten å ha dokumentert omsorgssvikt."
-Åge Simonsen - En av Norges fremste eksperter på barnevern


( Norway violates one of the most fundamental human rights.

"I have seen a world I did not think could exist in a modern state under the rule of law."
-Einar Salvesen - psychologist

"Let the world know what is going on in Norway"
-The European Parliament

"Norwegian child protection takes many children from their parents without having documented failure of care."
-Åge Simonsen - One of Norway's foremost experts on child protection )

  

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Demonstrations on 6 February 2016:


Australia is more or less 9 hours (I think) ahead of us in Europe, so results from there are the first to come in.

Brisbane:    250 protesters in Brisbane, Australia



Houston:    At a guess (from the video) between 100 and 200 people in Houston. Texas, USA




Brasov:    About 2000 protesters in Brasov, Romania


Zalau:    800 protesters in Zalau, Romania

  (It is not a hundred per cent certain that this video is from Zalau)
  
  

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Demonstrations on 7 February 2016:


Targu Mures:    1500 protesters in Targu Mures, Romania


Vancouver:    750 protesters in Vancouver, Canada

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Further demonstrations announced


29. Brussels, Belgium – 12 February 2016, 2:00 pm, Norwegian Embassy, Place du Luxembourg

30. Bacau, Romania – 13 February 2016, 11 am, Oras Bacau, Casa de Cultura Bacau

31. Ploiesti, Romania – 13 February 2016, 11 am, Palatul Administrativ (Casa Alba)

32. Toronto, Canada – 13 February 2016, Norwegian General Consulate, Royal 2 Bloor Street

33. Athens, Greece – 13 February 2016, 2:30 pm, Norwegian Embassy in Athens

34. Bran, Romania – 14 February 2016, 12 noon, Parcul Central Bran

35. Targoviste, Romania – 20 February 2016, 12 noon, at Platoul Prefecturii

36. Galati, Romania – 20 February 2016, 12 noon, Casa de Cultura

  

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Demonstration on 12 February 2016:


Brussels:    500 protesters before the EU Commission's building in Brussels, Belgium  (Second demonstration in Brussels)




  

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Demonstrations on 13 February 2016:


San Francisco:    2800 protesters in San Francisco, USA


  of the whole demonstration
,  same as Video 2, on youtube
,  both in writing and on video – also found at 00:52 of the above video

 –  pastor Cornel Avram's speech
– Chris Prunean's speech
– Bradley Clark's speech
 – David Muntean's speech

Bacau:    800-1000 protesters in Bacau, Romania


Ploiesti:    1600+ protesters in Ploiesti, Romania



Toronto:    350 protesters in Toronto, Canada  in -33 degrees Celsius!

There is a Video on , but I cannot find a link specifically to it.

Athens:    200 protesters in Athens, Greece



  

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Demonstration on 14 February 2016:

  
Bran:    220 protesters in Bran, Romania


  

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Announced demonstration


37. Oslo, Norway – 20 February 2016, Eidsvolls plass (the park by Stortinget, the
                                                                        Norwegian parliament), 3 pm – 7 pm



The demonstration is a general one against CPS abuses. However, the
Association of Romanians in Norway has announced that they will attend:
 

  "The real world – The lion roars about Barnevernet", Jan-Aage Torp (Norwegian speech)

 
   

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Demonstrations on 20 February 2016:


Hamburg:    60 protesters in Hamburg, Germany

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2 (Pro Bodnariu 11)
 3 (ProBodnariu 12)
4 (Pro Bodnariu 13)
5 (Pro Bodnariu 14)
6 (Pro Bodnariu 15)
7 (Pro Bodnariu 16)


Targoviste:    700 protesters in Targoviste, Romania


Galati:    1000 protesters in Galati, Romania


Oslo:    200+ protesters in Oslo, Norway
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(Demonstrate against Norwegian CPS: – The allegations are completely insane) (The article is typical of the way the Norwegian main-stream press stabs the victims in the back as usual.)
VG, 20 February 2016
 4 – TV2 Nyhetskanalen # Barnevernet
5 – VG TV #Barnevernet
6 – Jan-Aage Torp's talk

– Before the Norwegian Parliament
7 – Lithuanian visitors, Norwegian CPS victims, victim from Chile; Partly English speech, partly Russian speech English texting, partly Norwegian speech Russian texting
Video no 7 also
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  (1 minute's silence for victims of Barnevernet)
Frie Ytringer, Jan Simonsens blogg, 22 February 2016 

Armonia Magazine - USA, 20 February 2016
9 – Fragment
 10 – part of Marianne Skånlands talk
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 13 – Speeches, 1 of 2
 14 – Speeches, 2 of 2

   

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Planned demonstrations on 16 April 2016



Norway, Return the Children to Bodnariu Family, on youtube, 20 February 2016
  
  

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