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Var det de kommunale barnevernsarbeiderne som sørget for at barna ikke slapp ut av narkotikahelvetet?
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er en film basert på en sann historie, om en 14-åring i . Filmen gir et meget realistisk bilde av livet blant de narkomane på Kurfürstendamstrasse og Banhof Zoo. Christiane F. prøver heroin på sin 14-års dag og må snart prostituere seg for å skaffe neste dose. Hun prøver flere ganger å komme seg ut av misbruket men mislykkes gang på gang helt til hun på slutten av filmen tar en overdose. Christiane F. overlevde. Moren hennes hjalp henne å flytte til en liten by utenfor Hamburg.

Det som er verdt å merke seg ved filmen er det totale fraværet av kommunale sosialarbeidere. Jeg vil tro at noe av det verste ved tilværelsen på gaten er alle barnevernsarbeiderne som innbiller seg at de kan redde barna. Jo flere barnevernsarbeidere, jo flere unge narkomane, for barnevernstilværelsen fører lukt i helvetet for de fleste ungdommer. De som ble jaget av kommunale barnevernsarbeidere i Norge på 1970 og 1980 tallet er enten døde eller sitter fortsatt i klisteret med egne barn.

Filmen er best med tysk originaltekst og norske undertitler. Den finnes også som bok. Boken har flere detaljer enn filmen.

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Jeg husker jeg fikk meg en god latter av den filmen. På den tiden flommet det over med bøker og filmer som angivelig skulle fortelle autentiske historier fra narkomiljøet.

Det er mulig at akkurat denne er en autentisk historie, men hverken jeg eller noen av mine "narkovenner" var i stand til å kjenne igjen beskrivelsen. Men så foregikk den jo også i Tyskland....

Senere har det kommet bedre filmer om temaet - "Trainspotting" anbefales, "requiem for a dream" - filmatisk en opplevelse.

Den beste jeg har sett er allikevel Trond Kvists dokumentar "Junkies" - som anbefales på det sterkeste - spesielt historien om den unge jenta som forteller om en oppvekst med barnevernets velsignelse.

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Her er trolig en ganske god rangering av narkotiske stoffer. Det som gjør den litt tilforlatelig er f.eks at den ikke har tatt hensyn til det politisk korrekte.

Se plasseringen av alkohol og tobakk.

http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2007/m ... 4652830.51

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Spørsmålet er om en ønsker å bli klokere eller om en ønsker å få bekreftet sine egne forestillinger - noe Cristiane F. gjør.

"requiem for a dream" kan vel knapt kalles en autentisk historie, men den gir en veldig god beskrivelse av det selvbedraget som må til for å bli uforvarende avhengig av narkotika - mor blir hekta på slankepiller og sønn på heroin.

Det er i hvert fall en myte at en blir avhengig umiddelbart - fysisk. Men mange opplever rusen som så behagelig ( i en ellers uutholdelig livssituasjon) at de velger å se bort fra farene - fysisk avhengighet og toleranseøkning.

På den annen side - den fysiske avhengigheten er forholdsvis lett å bekjempe, den psykiske mye verre. Da den må erstattes med noe.

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