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Beskytter tradisjonelle familieverdier mot mørke krefter som barnevern?
Ja, helt klart. Det er derfor barnevernet alltid søker å splitte familien. 83%  83%  [ 5 ]
Nei, de mørke kreftene er sterkere enn de gode - barnevernet vinner frem overalt 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nei, nye familieverdier er vel så gode som de gamle, tradisjonelle 17%  17%  [ 1 ]
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Pave Benedict XVI mener og moral er en trussel. De siste årene har den katolske kirke kjørt brede kampanjer for å oppfordre italienere til å leve i tråd med tradisjonelle familieverdier. Italia ligger litt under gjennomsnittet i Europa hva gjelder drap.

Samtidig er det mer vold i hjemmet enn før, mener eksperter. (barneverns-"eksperter"? - undertegnedes bemerkning)

Av de 601 drapene som ble begått i Italia i 2005 skjedde 30 prosent innenfor hjemmets fire vegger. Til sammenlikning sto mafiaen bak 24 prosent av drapene som skjedde samme året.

Tidligere pave Johannes Paul II ga i 2004 uttrykk for sin bekymring over norske familieverdier.

«Man kan ikke unngå å se at en formørkning - i Guds forstand - har kastet sine skygger, ikke bare over ditt eget land, men også over andre nordiske land.», skrev han i brevet.

I kampen for mørket finner vi vår justisminister Knut Storberget hvis siste utspill er å gi arverett til samboere om de har hatt samme adresse i fem år.

Det er ikke til å legge skjul på at barnevernet går gode tider imøte etter hvert som det åndelige mørket senker seg over de nordiske land.

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På tradisjonelle misjonsmarker var det gjerne ikke en statlig registrering av ekteskap. De arver den andre likevel.

Det å bo sammen trenger faste rammer. Tradisjonelle samboere manglet gjerne det. I tillegg lå det både et opprør mot kristen tenkning og en likegyldighet mht respekt for egen kropp bak.

Likevel må man i et flerkulturelt samfunn akseptere flere måter å organisere ekteskapet. Det er vanskelig å forene at individet eier seg selv, om det ikke kan velge for seg selv.

For familien er det viktig at man lærer av gamle kulturer generelt. I det meste av historien og i vidt forskjellige kulturer har ekteskapet vert noe fast og mye mer ubrytelig enn i vår fordervede kultur.

Uregelmessige forhold er et slit for barna og foreldrene og det svekker styrken mot et galent barnevern.

Ellers anbefaler jeg selvsagt kristen tro som motvekt til barnefjern- og sosionomkulturen.

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Ut fra sammenhangen ville jeg valgt å snakke om forskjellige måter å organisere et naturlig og varig forhold mellom en mann og en kvinne. Samt hvordan dette virket sikrende på familien og mot barnevernsgalskap.

Poenger kan være:
Hvilken rolle skal staten ha?
Hvilken betydning har bryllup (typer feiringer og/eller markeringer)?
Hvilken betydning skal trossamfunn ha?
Hvilke betydning skal foreldre ha?
Hvilken betydning skal myndighetene ha på selve valget?

Altså: Hva ligger bak valget av livsledsager og hvordan kan det organiseres.

Svaret virket litt usaklig.

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Sant som Arild skriver uregelmessige forhold er et slit for barna.Barn trenger trygge rammer.Det er godt for barna og ha sine foreldre rundt seg.Så alt for lett stikker mange foreldre seg vekk fra hverandre.Noe barna ikke elsker.

Mennesker bør oppdage troen på viljen.Viljen i seg selv er ikke kristen .Den har alle.Den blir bortforklart med alt mulig.Psykobablet vekk.Typisk er jo blitt å si det er arv.Det er sant at mye er arv.Mestparten .Men får mennesket oppdaget viljen sin og toen på viljen sin.Kan viljen i et menneske bli så sterkt at det kan bekjempe negativ arv.

Jeg syns virkelig mennesker må lære seg få tro på viljen sin.Sikkert mange flere ville klart et ekteskap bedre da.For å skille seg gir barnevernet innpass og det blir lettere å ødlegg fam.

Man er et menneske ikke bare en kjøttmasse etter arv.Et menneske har tanker og som nevnt viljen .Da kan man ville det gode. Og for di med mye negativ arv har garantert en større jobb med det. Noen arver bare det positive alikevel fra sine forfedre .Og det positive treng man jo ikke bli av med.

For di aller fleste mennesker har noe positivt og.Og noen arver bare det .


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