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 Post subject: Enda lettere å tvangsinnlegge/tvangsbehandle folk?
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Enda lettere å tvangsinnlegge og tvangsbehandle folk?


Tidsskrift for Den norske lægeforening, nr 6, 15.03.07

Hvis jeg ikke har misforstått, blir det enda lettere for myndighetene å tvangsinnlegge folk de mener har en psykiatrisk lidelse, å omgjøre frivillig behandling til tvungen, å holde folk tilbake i tvang, å holde folk fysisk fast, og å få også barn til å gå med på å behandles.

Og alt dette presenteres altså som "styrket tilgang til helsehjelp".

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Til det siste, om barn/unge som selv samtykker :
"Loven er endret slik at barn under 16 år, kan gi samtykke til behandling innen psykisk helsevern slik de kan det innenfor somatikken. Tidligere var det nødvendig med samtykke fra den eller de som hadde foreldreansvaret."

Det vi vet om hvordan fosterbarn blir hjernevasket til å gå med på hva som helst fosterpersoner og barnevern vil, gjør det ikke vanskelig å forestille seg hvordan dette maktmiddelet kan brukes, og vil bli brukt.

  

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 Post subject: Ja, dette kommer til å bli gode greier
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Ja, dette kommer til å bli gode greier, Marianne.

Og ja, jeg har engasjert meg litt på WSOs vegne, og ja, jeg har møtt en del, ganske mange forresten, som har fått sine liv ødelagt av den frivillige tvangen. Og den frivillige tvangsmedisineringen.

Den er vellykket for yrkesutøverne, men for dem som blir utvalgt, er det skikkelig ille. Jeg mener SKIKKELIG ILLE.

Jeg har sett tvangspsykiatritjenesten in action på nært hold. Jeg har sett hvor uthult og utslettet de blir som mennesker. Jeg har sett angsten, for overgriperne, - men jeg har faktisk også sett hvordan folk friskner til når de blir kvitt parasittene.

Folk tar livet av seg. En mann som alltid kom på møtene mine, og ringte ofte til meg, gjorde det. Tvangspsykiatrien og tvangspillene, og tvangsinnleggelsene hjalp ham slettest ikke, tvert imot bidro den nedverdigende behandlingen å forverre hans situasjon.

Jeg var i rettsaken hans også, en av mange, hvor han krevde å slippe å bli tvangsbehandlet. Den tapte han. Mot slutten av sitt liv, vant han faktisk saken, under spesielle vilkår, men da var det for seint.

Jeg hadde nettopp vært på besøk hjemme hos ham, og så bare forsvant han. Vi var drit-nervøse. Så ble han meldt savnet av familien. Og ennå tok det tid før han ble funnet. Jeg var i begravelsen. Han hadde en fin familie. Men, psykiatrien var dessvrre ikke til noen hjelp. -Verken pillene eller behandlingen.

Så, jeg bare sier: LIGG LANGT UNNA DEM, HVIS DU HAR LIVET KJÆRT!

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Fra lovteksten -trur eg.

Reglane om samtykke på vegne av barn finst i pasientrettighetslova § 4-4, og i § 4-5 når det gjeld ungdom som ikkje har samtykkekompetanse.


Hva ligger i begrepet samtykkekompentanse da? Kan noen svare meg på det?

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Samtykkekompetanse innebærer for voksne ihvertfall, at de har sykdomsinnsikt. Har barnet verge f eks så har de ikke samtykkekompetanse

Jeg er svært skeptisk til det der samtykkekompetanse-greiene. Det blir til og med foretatt aborter utfra en verges mening selv om den gravide er imot det.


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