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 Post subject: Nadia leaves "mothers' home" – pursued and baby taken
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:34 am 
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Mother leaves "mothers' home" – pursued and baby taken


Let the Whole World Hear: The Kidnapping of an Infant in Norway
Delight in Truth, 13 June 2016

The rise and fall (?) of the Norwegian CPS
Wings of the Wind, 7 June 2016

– Nettverk skjuler barn for norsk barnevern (Network hides children from Norwegian Barnevern)
Aftenposten (NTB), 15 June 2016

Comments by Margaret Hennum, Hildi and Marianne Skånland re "mothers' homes", a so-called "network", etc:

Margaret here and here,
Hildi here and here,
Marianne here, here.

Margaret Hennum, in whose home the mother Nadia and the baby have been living peacefully for a month (Margaret is even a pediatric nurse!), is the same who gave a speech and was interviewed in Stryn at the demonstration on 16 April:
at 06:00 - 07:25 of this Video, published by HSLDA on 10 May 2016.

Margaret also gave a speech at the demonstration in Oslo on 28 May, which is expected to be published on video.

  

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MH Skånland wrote:
  
– Nettverk skjuler barn for norsk barnevern (Network hides children from Norwegian Barnevern)
Aftenposten (NTB), 15 June 2016
  


"The mother has obviously gotten help to hide by a network that operates on social media, and it is likely that she will also get further help from these." («Mor har åpenbart fått hjelp av et nettverk som opererer på sosiale medier, til å holde seg i skjul, og det er nærliggende å tro at hun vil få videre hjelp fra disse».)

The local CPS leader says that he has information that CPS-critical networks "advice parents against receiving help-measures from the CPS, i.e. measures like centers for parents and children." (Barnevernssjefen på 27-åringens hjemsted sier han er kjent med at barnevernskritiske nettverk «fraråder foreldre å ta imot enkelte hjelpetiltak fra barnevernstjenesten, eksempelvis tiltak som sentre for foreldre og barn».)

So how shall we conclude? There are no major, structural or basic problems in the Norwegian CPS? The biggest problem is ill-informed groups spreading lies about a well-functioning system? The CPS in Norway is a great and sympathetic helper of children, and children "rescued" by the CPS are forever thankful for the measures they have received? The mentioned networks are all the result of conspirational thinking, and lack of information on how the CPS works? People who help a mother and baby on the run have gotten it all wrong? They are just victims of one of the biggest misunderstandings in our time?

When are we going to get real? I am not saying a blind chicken can not pick a grain. But I am saying that the chicken indeed is blind, and that the CPS on the whole does not practice nor gain results according to its purpose. Families feel it, bystanders see it, and research confirms it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:29 am 
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Dagbladet continues with the emphasis on "networks" and the "hiding" of children. Now they have mobilised Solveig Horne to be "shocked that such networks exist", and holding that this can lead to "harm to innocent children". Goodness.

Horne: - Jeg var ikke klar over at slike nettverk finnes. Faren er at uskyldige barn blir skadelidende (Horne: – I was not aware of the existence of such networks. The danger is that innocent children will suffer.)
Hemmelig norsk nettverk skjuler barn for barnevernet.
(Secret Norwegian network hides children from Barnevernet.)
Dagbladet, 17 June 2016

  

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MH Skånland wrote:
  
Horne: - Jeg var ikke klar over at slike nettverk finnes. Faren er at uskyldige barn blir skadelidende (Horne: – I was not aware of the existence of such networks. The danger is that innocent children will suffer.)
Hemmelig norsk nettverk skjuler barn for barnevernet.
(Secret Norwegian network hides children from Barnevernet.)
Dagbladet, 17 June 2016

  


The problem is the good people among us. They usually follow rules and are loyal to the law-makers. But they also have a strong urge to help when people suffer or are ill-treated, and follow their conscience in such situations.

We were also helped by good people when we escaped Norway. One person took us to the airport, another friend bought the air-tickets. And several people helped me to arrange and clean up the house after we were out of the country.

You can call these good people networks, if you like. As far as I know, they are not doing anything illegal. But they are not jumping when the norwegian CPS says jump. And they are not necessarily extremely worried when the CPS states that " we do not think that this mother can take care of her child".

I have myself been on the scale of the CPS, and after their investigations both over and under the bedsheet I was found too lightweighted to be a father. But I was not too lightweighted to take a couple of years of all kinds of harrassment and insults from the CPS.

For the norwegian police, this kind of statement makes them pick up the same tools that they use when they are hunting serious criminals.

The norwegian police has a history when it comes to hunting down innocent people, which I do not even want to talk about. They should be careful not to be judged by history once again.


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Anyway, chasing a woman and her baby from the mother-child-institution certainly enlightens the public. It in some ways confirms the rumours that these homes are surveillance tools for uncovering children suitable for takeover by the government. In an nrk-program (Norwegian Broadcasting) available on internet, one of the professionals working in these institutions by slip of tongue says "we" and then corrects herself to saying "barnevernet", when she explains why barnevernet sometimes take the children after observation (of the child-parent interaction) in these homes. Clarifying that the people staffing these homes are close barnevernet-copartners.

The recent police-hunt for the mother and baby must certainly send chills down the spines of those who are currently attending these homes.

Is it really necessary to spread fear among families and mothers to be able to help them? Is making children and parents terrified an unavoidable part of doing good in this part of the welfare system?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:14 am 
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The emrgency action of Barnevernet was upheld yesterday. In other words, the baby is not allowed to go home to its mother.

Baby Caspian kidnapped in Norway ... Update #5
Wings of the Wind, Chris Reimers' blog, 27 June 2016

  

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Nadia og Caspian's case is very well covered in English

Since June, there have been several developments in the case of Nadia Bekkelund and her son, and she finally got her son back early September.

Chris Reimers, in Hot Springs in Arkansas, USA, has made an incredible job of describing it all on his blog Wings of the Wind. He has written a lot about other child protection cases also. The blog is copiously illustrated with pictures, not least of Nadia and Caspian. It is wonderful to see mother and son together.

Here is the list of postings in Chris' series Baby Caspian kidnapped in Norway:

The rise and fall (?) of the Norwegian CPS  7 June 2016
Norway's CPS kidnaps child ... today!!!!!  13 June
Update #1  17 June
Update #2  20 June
Update #3  24 June
Update #4  24 June
Update #5  27 June

Update #6  6 July
Update #7  12 July
Update #8  23 July
Update #9  30 July
Update #10  6 August

Update #11  8 August 2016
update #12  14 August
Update #13  20 August
Update #14  26 August
Update #15  3 September
Nadia has won the case ... Caspian is coming home!!!!  6 September 2016
Caspian is home!!!!!!  Update #16  12 September 2016

  

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Nadia, with Caspian, took part in the symposium on Norwegian child protection in Vienna, Austria, on 23 September. Margaret and Dag Hennum (in whose home Nadia has been living) were there also. Nadia and Margaret were the first to give talks / interviews. Their part starts at 56 minutes here:
Save The Children – Stop Violating Children's rights in Norway – Symposium LIVE
Save the Children, on youtube, 23 September 2016

Here they are being welcomed on arrival, before the symposium starts:
Symposium "Save the Children" - welcome to arriving guests
Save the Children, on youtube, 23 September 2016

Here is Chris Reimers with another update:
Nadia and Caspian in Vienna... Update #17 
Wings of the Wind, Chri Reimers' blog, 24 September 2016

A general thread about the Vienna symposium:
Forum in Vienna on Norwegian CPS, Friday 23 September 2016
Forum Redd Våre Barn (Rescue Our Children), 2 September 2016 –
  
  

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Nadia and Caspian... Update #18
Wings of the Wind, Chris Reimers' blog, 30 October 2016

  

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