11 December 2014
Here is one of those public statements made by a Norwegian embassy when Norwegian child protection attacks citizens from another country, and the other country's population is incensed about it, demonstrates against it, demands that the children be returned to their parents.
The Royal Norwegian Embassy in the Czech Republic, 13 November 2014
The Royal Norwegian Embassy has noted that the case of the Michalak-children has raised attention in Czech public. The messages of the different statements received at the Embassy are forwarded to Norwegian authorities.
It is the Norwegian Child Welfare Services, a government agency, which is the authority responsible for the specific assessments and decisions made in any matter concerning children’s welfare which is brought to their attention. The Child Welfare Services are precluded from disclosing the details of and the reasons for their decision or on any other information relating to the case to the public and any person/ institution not party to the case. This is to protect the child from having personal and/or sensitive information made public. The Embassy therefore does not have access to any details about the case and is not entitled to receive any such information from the Norwegian Child Welfare Services. The Embassy is therefore not in a position to comment on the case.
With reference to particular claims which have been presented in Czech media recently, the Embassy would like to stress that the parents can freely comment on the case in the media. They do not in any way risk being prosecuted or punished for this in Norway. Parents have the right to file a complaint against the Child Welfare Services’ decision to the County Social Welfare Board and to appeal against the decision in court. All parents have the right to a public defender in cases of child welfare and protection. The parents are, however, free to turn down this offer should they prefer to do so.
Cases which concern the welfare of children are sensitive and serious both for the parents and children involved, as well as for the authorities. It is therefore important that opinions in these cases are based on correct and factual information. Since the Norwegian Child Welfare Services are legally obliged to maintain confidentiality to protect the child´s welfare and its personal data, it is not able to react to incorrect claims which may occur in media. Only individuals party to the case have this right, and this sometimes means that individual cases are not presented in the media with all relevant information.
Comments:
Again we encounter the propaganda about how sensitive it is, that is: there is more than a suggestion of the family having behaved in such a way that they ought to keep it hidden and be ashamed.
Oh yes, it is certainly a tragedy for the family and a great one, but what is "sensitive" is for it to become public knowledge in Czechia how the CPS and Norway are behaving.
This silly statement, then, is supposed to "explain" why Norwegian CPS and official Norway "cannot say anything" and at the same time sort of "explain" that Norwegian child protection is always right and that the courtcases dealing with child protection cases are so solid and everything is so humane!
A couple of weeks ago Norwegian tv showed an interview with a representative of the Norwegian embassy in Russia, in connection with the Russian children's ombudsman's criticism of Norway. This embassy-spokesman said that Norway had "explained" to the Russians how Norwegian child protection functioned, but that the Russians apparently "had not taken it in properly"! - As if Norway is the adult teaching self-evident sense to children, while the children continue to protest foolishly?
The statement of the Norwegian embassy in Czechia seems to be of exactly the same sort: Norway "explains", and the Czechs are then expected to cave in and understand how wonderful the Norwegian CPS is? Norway says in the above statement that what is reported about it in Czech circles is not "correct". That about Russian reporting too.
Rather, it is Norway's continuing propaganda praising our child "protection" which is not correct. Our population has a tendency to be very naïve regarding our own authorities, so here at home the authorities are used to being able to keep doing this without any marked protest. It is to be hoped that foreigners will not let themselves be bamboozled in the same way but will se that lies are lies, and will not give in.
The statement of the Norwegian embassy in Prague contains another typical lie, typical in what it does not say: ".. the Embassy would like to stress that the parents can freely comment on the case in the media. They do not in any way risk being prosecuted or punished for this in Norway."
No, they do not, but it is standard for the CPS to use statements from parents against them, and numerous parents and other relatives who have been subect to the sanctions tell us that the sanctions are devastating, for example: • more infrequent meetings with the children, • no meetings at all, • meetings in which the parents are forbidden to talk with the children about wanting to get the children home, and in which the CPS break off the meetings if the parents tell the children that they love them and try to embrace them; meetings are also broken off if the children want to talk confidentially with the parents or if they cling to the parents, • increased brainwashing of the children which the child protection agency's people and the foster people carry out, brainwashing consisting of the children being told that the parents do not care for them and do not do what is necessary to get them home, • stepping up of the anger shown by the foster people and punishment carried out by them if the children try to get in touch with their family, e.g by ringing them, • the CPS stepping up their action to have the "parental responsibility" taken away from the parents in court action; when they succeed, it means that the parents no longer have any right to get any information at all about the children and that the children can be forcibly adopted away.
So: no prosecution or punishment?
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An example: A quote from the thread starter in a debate (the author says in the thread that he/she speaks both Norwegian and English, and evidently is proficient in other languages also):
Nemo1024 in thread : "I was following the Norwegian news outlets closely after the incident was reported on Russian media. Zero mention. The parents did say in the interview to the Russian channel that they were warned/threatened not to tell media or else they'll never see their child again." bitcointalk.org, 28 October 2014
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However: Although Norway regularly tries to frighten CPS-victims to make them shut up, by threatening sanctions, it is my experience – gained over many years – that publicity is by far the best thing. First of all: the CPS people are quite frightened themselves of having every detail of what they do, exposed. Publishing puts them on the defensive. The fasmily is more protected, not less, if they publish everything the CPS says and does. Hvis the CPS threatens sanctions, one must publicise these as well, in detail. Secondly, if one does not publish, the public knows nothing, and then one is quite without help, completely in the destructive power of the CPS and the courts. It is not at all true that the CPS or the courts will be ready, or more ready, to let the children return to the parents if the parents "obey" and do the CPS's bidding. Thirdly, making one's case known generally, will make the parents themselves feel less as if they are in isolation in a prison. Talking to others, especially to the contacts one gets from those who have experiences the same kind of cases or who try to help them, gives many parents a mental strength they did not have before they made their case known. Fourthly, it is important that CPS victims get together to try and influence the authorities and politicians in their own countries, to do something to stop the menace of the CPS in many countries. Fifthly, each victim should try to contribute to the pool of information that we need to become general knowledge, so that it can warn new victims. New victims can sometimes manage to get out of the country with their children, i.e emigrate, before the CPS has hooked the children.
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