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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:19 pm 
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Daughter gives vague and hesitant testimony
The Star, 25 February 2014

Malaysian couple charged in Sweden for abuse: Daughter gives vague testimony
The Straits Times, 25 February 2014

Son of Malaysian couple on trial in Sweden recalls worst beating
The Star, 25 February 2014

Sweden child abuse trial: I feel estranged from mum, says daughter
The Star, 26 February 2014

Five kids abused every week. Babysitters and maids are main culprits in most cases
The Star, 26 February 2014

Family issues are a secret, says girl. Daughter in Sweden abuse case uncomfortable about talking to interviewers
The Star, 26 February 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:14 pm 
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A comment of mine to an article was published. The web site is evidently Islamic, but the article is not narrowly religious and it is rather thoughtful, I think, so I have tried to suit my comment to it.

The article has been linked to further up in this thread:
The plea of four siblings in Sweden: Addressing big questions
quranicgen, 11 February 2014


Here is my comment:
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23 February 2014
Marianne Skanland:

Your questions as to ‘children's best interest’ and the Swedish child protection system are spot on.

Unfortunately, most of the debate I have seen in Malaysian publications about this case in Sweden centres on whether the parents are guilty of abuse, whether they deserve to be in prison, whether physical punishment of children is good or bad. Your article too has a long discussion of punishment and its standing in Islam, but it is balanced by other perspectives – issues which are actually more important, in my assessment. Allow me to state that I do not approve of physical punishment of children and I agree that it should be illegal. But that does not mean that the ‘alternative’, i.e. what Swedish authorities do to children and their families in such cases, is all right. Quite the contrary, they hold power and should therefore be obliged to act with completely clean hands all through. But they do not.

One problem is that one can never be sure whether what is said about parents and children, by child protection authorities or indeed in the courts or in their judgments, is true (cf Dag Sverre Aamodt’s article
in Free Malaysia Today: “The case handling is generally characterized partly by unsubstantiated opinions and partly by blatant lies.”).

Most other articles and comments in Malaysia that I have seen have left out the question of whether the Swedish concept of the family and Sweden’s treatment of these Malaysian children are more acceptable than what the parents are charged with having done. For those of us who know what the treatment of foster children in Sweden is so often like, Swedish authorities lack an acceptable moral basis for being judgmental about parents. And they certainly lack any justification for having isolated these children from their entire family, denying relatives who came from Malaysia to help, the possibility of even meeting the children, necessitating a Malaysian top government minister coming all the way from Malaysia to get the children out. – But you see, this is the way Western child protection usually behaves and Sweden just about tops the list.

Your article shows considerable insight into the ‘child protection industry’; you probably do not need to be told of further articles to read. May I suggest, for your readers though, that they google ‘Siv Westerberg’ – several of her articles are available in English and can be found on
http://forum.r-b-v.net and on http://www.mhskanland.net. Mrs Westerberg is Swedish, she is a leading human rights lawyer who has succeeded in having 9 cases against Sweden admitted to the European Court of Human Rights, most of them child protection cases, and has won 7 of them.
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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:32 am 
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Sweden child abuse trial: Girl tells Swedish court she prefers her aunts
The Star, 27 February 2014

Daughter of Malaysian couple tells Swedish court of distant relationship with parents
The Malaysian Insider, 27 February 2014

Rättegång mot diplomatpar för barnmisshandel (video)
tv4, 18 February 2014

Swedish child abuse trial: Second son gives muddled statements
The Star, 28 February 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Is New Zealand looking more and more like Sweden?
Family Integrity, 11 February 2014

Almost identical to "Second son gives muddled statements" above:
Swedish child abuse trial: Son in Sweden case raises new questions
The Star, 1 March 2014
 
Sweden trial: Best friend says it’s the dad who hit his son
The Star, 1 March 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Children's testimonies expected to end, parents next week
Astro Awani, 28 February 2014

Azizul attended IDFR training under Wisma Putra
Astro Awani, 25 February 2014

Nazri: No plans to replace Azizul at the moment
Astro Awani, 25 February 2014


The evidence of the father:
Azizul admits to hitting kids
Astro Awani, 3 March 2014

Sweden child abuse trial: I beat them to discipline, not hurt, says dad
The Star, 3 March 2014

Sweden child abuse trial: Father claims he never hit kids in Sweden
The Star, 4 March 2014

Azizul: I misunderstood a question from the cops
The Star, 6 March 2014


The children have apparently had English as their main language earlier, have been going to an international school:
Children of couple on trial in Sweden struggle with Bahasa
The Star, 4 March 2014


The evidence of the mother:
Sweden child abuse trial: Shalwati admits hitting son once after he threw a tantrum
The Star, 5 March 2014

Shalwati admits to smacking Ammar once in Sweden
AstroAwani, 5 March 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Swedish child abuse trial: My children lied, says mother
The Star, 6 March 2014

Mum tells court why she hit son
The Star, 6 March 2014


Welfare Dept updating Swedish counterparts on well-being of kids
The Star, 6 March 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Swedish child abuse trial: 'My kids will lie for attention'
The Star, 7 March 2014

Sweden child abuse trial: I beat them to discipline, not hurt, says dad
The Straits Times, 3 March 2014

Swedish child abuse trial: 'My kids will lie for attention'
Asia One, 7 March 2014

Swedish child abuse trial: My children lied, says mother
Asia One, 6 March 2014

SWEDEN CHILD ABUSE CASE: I beat them to discipline, not hurt, says dad
Asia News Network, 4 March 2014

Media gone overboard in Malaysian couple’s child abuse case in Sweden?
(Four videoes from 20-25 February)
the ant daily, 3/5 March 2014

Spanking can get you jailed
(Blog entry with comments)
a happy mum, 20 January 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Decision on Malaysian couple's trial in Sweden at end March
New Straits Times, 8 March 2014

Malaysian couple on trial in Sweden to know fate end of March – Bernama
The Malaysian Insider, 8 March 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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CHILD ABUSE CASE: Sweden to decide on Malay couple at end March
Malaysia Chronicle, 8 March 2014

Swedish child abuse trial: Brief reunion for Shalwati and sister
The Star, 11 March 2014

Tourism M'sia hopes judgment will take into account of good faith
The Star, 20 February 2014

Swedish child abuse trial: Court mulls community service for couple
The Star, 12 March 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Sweden child abuse trial: Alleged beatings affected kids
The Star, 13 March 2014

Friends testify how Ammar was affected by alleged abuse
The Star, 14 March 2014

Swedish child abuse trial:
Intense final day

The Star, 14 March 2014

Prosecutor tears into couple’s defence
The Star, 15 March 2014

Swedish child abuse:
Trial ends, couple to be detained until verdict on March 28

The Star, 15 March 2014

Wisma Putra pursuing diplomatic status for Tourism Officer post in Sweden
The Star, 18 March 2014

Gov’t to seek immunity for Tourism M’sia officials in Sweden
Free Malaysia Today, 19 March 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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An article from as early as January was overlooked at the time (maybe because its link to the newspaper The Star, where the article was first published, does not function - or has the paper removed the article?). But it is of interest:

A travesty of universal justice
av M. Veera Pandiyan
Asia News Network, 30 jJanuary 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Friday 28 March 2014
Judgment against the parents today

Early this morning a large number of Swedish papers carried a few short paragraphs about the case, stating that a judgment was expected today.

Around 11 a.m. the judgment came. The text on the same addresses on the papers' web sites was then changed to something like the following:

Fängelse för malaysiska föräldrar (Prison for Malaysian parents)
metro, 28 March 2014

Fängelse för malaysiskt diplomatpar (Prison for Malaysian diplomat couple)
Kristianstadsbladet, 28 March 2014

Fängelse för malaysiska föräldrar
Svenska Dagbladet, 28 March 2014

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In Malaysia:

Swedish court finds Malaysian couple guilty of hurting children, metes out jail sentence
The Star, 28 March 2014

Malaysian parents jailed for child abuse in Sweden
Free Malaysia Today, 28 March 2014

Tourism Malaysia officer gets 10 months, wife, 14 months for child abuse
New Straits Times, 28 March 2014

Child Abuse Case In Sweden: 10 Months Jail For Tourism Malaysia Officer, Wife Sentenced To 14 Months
Bernama, National News Agency of Malaysia, 28 March 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:07 am 
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Swedish court finds Malaysian couple guilty
New Straits Times, 29 March 2014

Duo in Sweden found guilty and to pay RM52,000 in compensation to children
The Star, 29 March 2014

Shalwati can appeal to PSC, says former union leader
The Star, 29 March 2014

 Children's aunt not shocked over verdict 
The Star, 29 March 2014

Childcare groups: Ban corporal punishment
The Star, 29 March 2914

Children of Malaysian couple accept Swedish court’s decision
The Star, 29 March 2014

  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Malaysian couple sentenced to prison
Sveriges Radio, 28 March 2014

Swedish court jails Malaysian couple for hitting their kids
Malay Mail Online, 28/29 March 2014

Family accepts Swedish court verdict, does not plan to appeal
Malay Mail Online, 28 March 2014

Sweden child abuse trial: Malaysian couple found guilty, 2 years jail (video of the verdict announcement in a news program)
ntv7, 28 March 2014

Swedish court rules Malaysian couple guilty of hurting children, imposes jail sentence
The Malaysian Insider, 28 March 2014
Much debate under this article, including one from a Swede who informs us that in Swedish kindergartens one is not allowed to say "no" to the children or correct them in any way, or take them away from a situation in which they are hurting other children. A comment from another Swede brags that Sweden is perfect - this person no doubt is of the opinion that Swedish child protection (probably one of the world's most hostile to the biological family) is perfect too.

Ministry may send reps to couple jailed in Sweden
The Sun Daily, 30 March 2014
Here, Malaysians even discuss whether to send the children to visit / encourage the parents. Have they not yet understood that the children must be kept out of Sweden at any price? Cf the Domenic Johansson case.

Children Of Malaysian Couple Accept Swedish Court's Decision
Bernama, National News Agency of Malaysia, 29 March 2014

Swedish court jails Malaysian parents
The Hindu, 29 March 2014

Couple jailed in Sweden for smacking kids
The Telegraph, 29 March 2014
  
  

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 Post subject: Re: Malaysian family in Sweden - children taken
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Released after imprisonment in Sweden

The mother has now been released and has gone home to Malaysia, the father was released and returned to Malaysia in July.


Woman jailed for hitting kids, returns
Free Malaysia Today, 29 September 2014

Malaysian mum in child abuse case freed from Swedish prison
Yahoo News Malaysia, 30 September 2014

Custodial rights return only if Sweden is satisfied
Free Malaysia Today, 3 October 2014

Child abuse case with a vexing political angle
Free Malaysia Today, 3 October 2014

  

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