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Er dårlige norskkunnskaper tegn på generell kunnskapssvikt?
Ja, i hvertfall når det gjelder psykologer 57%  57%  [ 4 ]
Nei da, dårlig norsk har ingen betydning for fagkunnskap 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ja, å kunne skrive godt norsk er et minstekrav til saksbehandlere 43%  43%  [ 3 ]
Det var kanskje viktig for 50 år siden. Ikke idag. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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 Post subject: Imbesille sakkyndige
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Den såkalte sakkyndige i Fredrikstad-saken, "spesialist i klinisk psykologi" Bjørn Roald Larsen skriver på toppen av side 10 (side 49 i familiens egen beretning) i sin "utredning" av familien Antonsen at "Marcus har prioritert på plasseringen på Tune barnehjem, men prioriterer spesielt på en til en voksenkontakt og en mindre gruppe med barn". (uthevet av undertegnede)

http://www.likestilling.com/linker/barn/MA/MA2/MA49.gif

Dette er dårlig norsk, men verre er at "spesialisten" med embedseksamen i psykologi ikke forstår betydning av ordet "prioritere". Det skulle selvfølgelig stå at Marcus hadde profitert (eller hatt utbytte av) på plasseringen, uten at dette nødvendigvis er riktig.

Det er litt rart at en voksen mann, som endatil er spesialist på utredninger, ikke behersker et alminnelig norsk. Dette tyder på at han ikke er så mye spesialist som den flotte tittelen tyder på, såkalt "empty suit" på engelsk.

Er han like lemfeldig med sin utredning av familien som han er med det norske sprog, så ser det dystert ut for familien.

Jeg vil råde ham til å gå ungdomssskolen om igjen og holde seg unna privatlivet til godtfolk. Med slike "kunnskaper" er han ikke kvalifisert til å rette norsk-stilen til en fjortenåring.

Jeg har forøvrig merket meg at det synes som om psykologstanden har lærevansker når det gjelder å tilegne seg morsmålet. De skriver hakket bedre enn analfabetene i barnevernet, som skriver som tredje-klassinger.

Det er godt disse inkompetente bedreviterne har sikre jobber i det offentlige. Det hadde vært bedre å latt dem leve av sosialtrygd. Da hadde de i det minste ikke kunnet gjøre så mye skade.

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 Post subject: Språkkunnskaper hos bv, psykologer og andre
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Språkbeherskelse hos barnevernere, psykologer, barnehavepersonale, beredskapsforeldre, fosterforeldre og andre i geskjeften

Hehe, jeg tror jeg prioriterer en god latter, for den var karakteristisk, den.

Heller ikke jeg har kunnet unngå å legge merke til hvor hjelpeløs, barnaktig norsk svært mange av disse folkene presterer i sine journaler og rapporter.

Nå blåser jeg i stavefeil og ukonvensjonell skrivemåte fra vanlige mennesker; det er slett ikke til hinder for kommunikasjonen. Også jeg selv blir mindre og mindre interessert i staving og desslike ettersom årene går.

Men når psykofantastene, barnevernerne – og deres hjelpere i skoler og barnehaver og beredskapshjem og fosterhjem – formelig flømmer over av betraktninger om barnas "tilbakesatte / forsinkede språkutvikling" og "ikke aldersadekvate språkmestring", som de selv så skal "bøte på", er det grunn til å ryste-riste på hodet. De barnefagliges egen beherskelse av både skriftlig og muntlig norsk er ikke bare jevnt over dårlig, den er direkte hjelpeløs, komisk, barnslig. For det første skulle de selv etter samme målestokk som de later som om de anvender, umiddelbart tas under behandling og gis "stimulering" og "oppmerksomhet" og barnehave-plass og "begreps-trening" for å "utvikle" språket. Dertil kunne det nok passe med en IQ-test på dem, ja. Og dette er altså folk som skal vurdere andres språkbeherskelse, og som tror de vet noe om barns språkutvikling! Jaha ja, hellige enfold.

Da kommer barn og almindelige dødelige adskillig bedre fra det. De oppfører seg i større grad i samsvar med sitt alderstrinn og sine pretensjoner.

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 Post subject: Re: Språkkunnskaper hos bv, psykologer og andre
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Helt enig med deg. Det jeg skrev, var ingen kritikk av ditt resonnement i det hele tatt. Jeg bare tok forbeholdet om at "korrekthet" i skriving ikke nødvendigvis indikerer noe vesentlig om folk fordi det ellers er lett å henge seg opp i rene formalia. Folk tror ofte nettopp at språkforskere driver og diller med "regler" av rent utvendig art for hva som er korrekt.

Det er tragisk at vi lever i et land hvor en sånn som Larsen får lov å ture frem og få makt, med sin egen ukyndighet og med latterlig kritikk av familien Antonsen.

  


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