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 Post subject: En del av vår info har nådd ut internasjonalt her
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:33 am 
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En del av vår info har nådd ut internasjonalt her. Se seksjonen "Criticisms" og lenker:

Child Welfare Services (Norway)
(Engelskspråklig) Wikipedia, sist modifisert 28. mars 2013


  

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 Post subject: Re: En del av vår info har nådd ut internasjonalt her
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:42 pm 
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"Orland" --- personen på artikkelens diskusjonsside --- er nok samme Orland som ødelegger Wikipedia-artikler om barnevern, i Norge.

Jeg svarte han følgende:

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Orland has no knowledge of this field. Norwegian authorities have had to pay over 1.3 billion kroner (NOK) (220 million dollars) to victims of child protection.
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7079907

That situation has not changed, says NIBR report 2006:7: Assistance measures in child care - do they work?

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"It seems that Norwegian Child Welfare is struggling with a paradox: CPS makes extensive use of measures of which we have little systematic, research-based knowledge and that we "are unsure" of "believe in" much based on tradition. These measures have been used for decades, and we have neither been able to find out exactly how they work or able to put something else instead ("new forms of measures")".

Where are today's victims of Norwegian Child Welfare? On Facebook there are several groups of several thousand Norwegian members:

4000 members:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/177890005726/

2500 members:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/551862654833009/

1700 members:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/271381683378/

NKMR - Nordiska Kommittén för Mänskliga Rättigheter (NCHR - The Nordic Committee for Human Rights.) 1270 members.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/126288523784/

Same as:
http://www.nkmr.org/

This group has nearly 34,000 members:
http://www.causes.com/ikkebarnet

"The forum Save Our ​​Children" is about this. The site has nearly 1,000 members and 32,000 posts.
http://forum.r-b-v.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.252.96.164 (talk) 13:05, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Why Orland would want to conceal --- here and elsewhere --- this popular movement against child welfare abuse, he knows best himself. Wikipedia should not be used for such concealment. It damages Wikipedia's reputation for decades. At some time it will surely become known that Wikipedia was used to hide the child welfare abuse in more than one country.

Posted by Arild Holta. Further presentation of the work I'm doing against child welfare abuse one can find for example here:
http://www.gateavisa.no/2010/04/16/aril ... barnevern/

Så får vi se om det får stå i fred. (Jeg har rettet litt i ettertid.)
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 Post subject: Re: En del av vår info har nådd ut internasjonalt her
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:44 am 
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Arilds kommentar står der fortsatt uendret, og de kritiske kommentarene og artikkelreferansene i selve artikkelen likeså. Under "Criticisms" er det også kommet inn en ny kommentar (eller er det bare min kopi fra tidligere versjon som er defekt?):

Thousands of former children in care have sought compensation for the suffering and abuse under child protection. The majority of these have received compensation. In total 220 million dollars (2010).[3][4]

som ikke ser ut til å skrive seg fra Arilds kommentar på "Talk page", men som ligner slike ting som Arild skriver? Det henvises til to av fotnotene i Wikipedia-artikkelen.


  

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