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FORUMET REDD VÅRE BARN • View topic - Barnevernet til krig mot Tyrkia
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Bør de norske fosterpersonene returnere til Norge uten de to guttene?
Ja, guttene må få bli hos sine naturlige foreldre 14%  14%  [ 1 ]
Nei, det ville vært tragisk for fosterpersonene 14%  14%  [ 1 ]
Nei, de bør avvente inntil saken er ferdigbehandlet i tyrkisk rett 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ja, de burde pakke koffertene øyeblikkelig og dra hjem uten guttene som har det best hos sine foreldre 14%  14%  [ 1 ]
Nei, det ville innebære at barnevernet tapte ansikt 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nei, guttene må for all del bli med tilbake til Norge. Der har de sine venner. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nei, fosterpersone bør kastes i tyrkisk fengsel for barnekidnappping 57%  57%  [ 4 ]
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Barnevernet i Stavanger rasler med sablene. Det sender nå ned til de to strandete fosterpersonene som nekter å forlate landet uten sine to tyrkiske fosterbarn. Uten guttene, ingen penger inn på kontoen til fosterpersonene.

Den naturlige familien til de to tyrkiske guttene slåss heltemodig mot overmakten. De har foreløpig fått rettens kjennelse på at guttene må bli i Tyrkia, sin fars hjemland, inntil saken er realitetsbehandlet av tyrkiske domstoler. Avgjørelsen må ha frustrert fosterpersonen Flo, for han på kultivert norsk: – Dette var det verste slaget i trynet vi kunne fått.

Fosterpersonene er i ferd med å bli kjendiser, og den korpulente mannlige fosterpersonen synes å i spotlyset. Det er hans femten minutter med berømmelse. Både han og hans kvinnelige kollaboratør oppholder seg i Tyrkia på norske skattebetaleres regning. Formålet er å hindre guttenes naturlige foreldre i å få tilbakeført sønnene sine etter fire års kamp. Begge guttene er tyrkiske statsborgere, men det hindrer ikke duoen Flo/Rudland i å kreve de to guttene tilbakeført med tvang til Norge. De to var så selvsikre og arrogante at de tok med seg guttene på ferie farens hjemland, uvitende om at guttene hadde dobbelt statsborgerskap.

Barnevernet er så vant med å ture frem nøyaktig som de vil mot barn og foreldre at det fikk sjokk over å bli møtt med motstand i tyrkisk rett.

Utenriksdepartementet driver såkalt "stille diplomati" for å hindre de naturlige foreldre i å få tilbake omsorgen for sønnene sine. UD fører her en skitten krig mot et foreldrepar som har vist at de er villige til å gå gjennom ild og vann for sønnene sine. Det er ikke en menneskerett for nordmenn å få holde andre lands statsborgere i fosterfengsel.

Det sies at guttene har venner i Norge, men det kan de få i Tyrkia også. Det viktigste er at de får bo hos sine foreldre og nyte godt av den ubetingede kjærligheten som bare foreldre kan gi. Profesjonelle fosterer som har offentlig barnevernsomsorg som yrke, kan neppe forventes å gi guttene noe særlig utover mat og tak over hodet. Når som helst kan fosterne si fra seg ansvaret. Det skjer gjerne i tenårene når guttene begynner å opponere. Da havner guttene i barneverninstitusjon, og veien til en fremtid som kriminelle rusmisbrukere er ikke lang. Etterhvert vil de kunne havne på Ullersmo. Slik er gjerne resultatet av barnevernets "omsorg".

Guttenes naturlige foreldre har bragt saken helt til Høyesterett i Norge og har tapt i alle instanser. Ikke fordi de er dårlige foreldre men fordi norsk lovgivning legitimerer barnestjeling. Foreldre har blitt fratatt sine mest basale rettigheter og barna sine. Makten er blitt overført til sosionomer som begår grove overgrep mot barnefamilier. Barnevernet er idag den største trusselen mot barn. Det har flere enn den tyrkiske familien fått erfare.

Må de norske slavedriverne tape og barna få bli hos sine foreldre.

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Faktisk ser det ut til at Norge i denne saken har gjort temmelig nøyaktig det Norge ble dømt for ved Menneskerettighetsdomstolen i Strasbourg for 10 år siden. De tvangsfjernet Adele Johansens datter Signe Malene en uke etter fødselen, på falske rapporter og beskyldninger. Nokså fort avskar de all kontakt. Så hevdet de at hun ikke kunne få Signe Malene tilbake fordi det ikke var noen "tilknytning" – det var gått for lang tid.

Alt dette vant de frem med i samtlige rettsinstanser i Norge. Fosterforeldrene ville adoptere Adeles datter og har fått trumfet det igjennom. Blant annet begynte de med nye beskyldninger om hvor negativt inntrykk de hadde fått av henne da hun etter mange år endelig fikk satt igjennom (ved ny advokat) at hun aller nådigst skulle få treffe Signe Malene. Fosterforeldrene og barnevernet skapte da en helt unødvendig konflikt og skremte vel Signe Malene. Barnevernet begynte med nye falske rapporter, og i retten gjentok de de gamle falske psykolog-påstandene fra 10 år tidligere, de som forlengst var avkreftet.

Da Norge ble dømt i Strasbourg, brukte Norge mengder av penger på å "orientere" norsk barneverns-personale om at dommen var å tolke slik og sånn – i realiteten drev Norge der et falskspill. Og myndighetene har fortsatt ufortrødent å fjerne barn og holde dem borte fra foreldrene, på akkurat samme måte som de den gang ble dømt for.

Tyrkia har selv blitt dømt i Strasbourg for ganske andre forhold. Men i denne saken har Tyrkia faktisk rett (foreløbig), når de anklager Norge for å ha brutt menneskerettighetene. Det er å håpe at de ikke lar seg bløffe av nye bølinger av norske advokater.

Men uansett hvordan det går: Det er et sørgelig uføre norske myndigheter har brakt landet vårt ut i med sin vanvittige tankegang og falske argumentasjon for familiesprengningene de driver med.

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Apropos diskriminering av folk fra andre kulturer gjennom å skille deres barn fra dem: Nå hevder barnevernet at de så gjerne vil ha flere fosterforeldre fra innvandrer-kretser (men de vil ikke ha flere virkelige foreldre fra innvandrer-kretser, selvsagt!):




Jeg har skrevet en kommentar til dette i forbindelse med Tyrkia-saken. Mangelen på logikk hos barnevernet og norske myndigheter er relativt slående, deres løgner i Tyrkia-saken likeså:

[url=http://forum.r-b-v.net/viewtopic.php?t=913]Barnevernssaken Tyrkia / Stavanger
2: Fosterhjem i barnas naturlige miljø?[/url]


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