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Er tvangsfjernelse av barna et verre overgrep mot kvinner enn voldtekt?
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 Post subject: Likestillingsministeren raser mot Fremskrittspartiet
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I forbindelse med en Amnesty-rapport hvor det fremkommer at halvparten av alle menn mener flørtende kvinner selv må ta ansvar for voldtekter, sier justispolitisk talsmann for FrP, Jan Arild Ellingsen, at mange menn i Norge og at jenter må ta høyde for det.

Likestillingsminister Karita Bekkemellem reagerer kraftig på Frps utspill om at kvinner selv må ta ansvar for hvilke signaler de sender ut til menn, for som hun sier:

- Voldtekt er at av de verste overgrepene en kvinne kan bli utsatt for, og vi kan ikke gi legitimitet for at man utsetter seg selv for overgrep om man oppfører seg på en spesiell måte. Dette kan vi ikke akseptere, og vi må få satt en stopper for slike holdninger.


Kommentar: Jeg vil hevde at et av de aller verste overgrepene en kvinne og mor kan bli utsatt for er å bli fratatt sitt barn. Barnevernet legitimerer overgrepene ved å vise til at moren har oppført seg på en måte som de mener er "bekymringsfull". Moren kan ha politiske holdninger som de venstrevridde barnevernsansatte forakter. Hun kan kle seg på en måte som barnevern-psykologen ikke synes noe om. Hun kan ha meninger som strider mot hva som til enhver tid oppfattes som politisk korrekt. Alt dette kan være årsaker til at barnevernet betrakter henne som et legitimt offer for mer eller mindre inngripende "tiltak".

Hvorfor skal "barnevernet" ha rett til å "voldta" kvinner ved å frata dem deres barn?

Blir overgrep mindre alvorlige når de begås av det offentlige og ikke av privatpersoner?

Barne- og likestillingsministeren er fryktelig opptatt av kvinners rett til ikke å bli voldtatt og til å sitte i styrer, selv uten eierskap. Hva om hun interesserte seg en smule for alle de mødrene som urettmessig blir fratatt sine barn av et mektig og korrupt "barnevern"? Dette er nemlig også likestilling. Mødre har rett til å oppdra sine barn uten unødig innblanding fra det offentlige. Det er en menneskerett å stifte å få lov til å stifte familie. Norske kvinner opplever å bli fratatt sine grunnleggende menneskerettigheter som følge av "barnevernets" fanatiske jakt etter "omsorgssvikt".

Skal norske kvinner og mødre akseptere at barnevernet, i likhet med menn, "tenker annerledes" og bruker dette til å rettferdiggjøre henholdsvis tvangsfjernelse og voldtekt?

Nå må barne- og likestillingsminister ta kvinner som blir utsatt for overgrep fra myndighetene på alvor. Det virker hyklersk å rase mot Fremskrittspartiet når det er Karita Bekkemelloms eget departement som står for de verste overgrepene mot kvinner.

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Jeg kan ikke fri meg helt fra tanken om at det bak BV iver etter å beslaglegge barn ligger en ide om at dette barnet burde vært en abort.

Det er en amerikansk økonom (husker ikke navnet) som fant at når det ble vanskeligere å ta abort økte kriminaliteten tilsvarende femten tjue år etter.
At begge deler -både abortrater og kriminalitet har med sosiale forhold å gjøre er visst sekundært.

Det plager meg at t.o.m. kristne som hevder å ville hjelpe kvinner til å våge å bære fram barnet sitt, støtter barnefjensindustrien - noe kan kanskje forklares gjennom at de rekrutterer personell fra de samme kretser som resten av røkla. Men bak om ligger den tradisjonelle moralske fordømmelsen.

Jeg ser det tydelig i forskjellsbehandlingen av enslige mødre på den lokale skolen. De må slett ikke kreve noe, ellers pusses BV på dem. Vi andre der i mot, som har en høyere sosial status i skolens øyne, kan både kreve og få.

Jeg opplever at det blir sett på som et tegn på grov uansvarlighet å være enslig mor. Bak dette ligger igjen forventning om at siden det er lett tilgang på prevensjon og abort er det unødvendig å sette seg selv i en slik posisjon. Det samme gjelder dersom en velger å få mange barn uten å være rik.

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