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Det kan, mer enn annet, se ut som om myndighetene nok en gang vil påse at folk fortsatt tror at barnekidnapping er hjemlet i lov.

Nå ymtes det i flere kriker og kroker om at såkalt rettssikkerhet- det må vi som er tvunget inn i deres vold, forstå og ha tillit til finnes.

Dette selvfølgelig uten verken å anerkjenne eller vedgå at kidnapping er enorme voldsutøvelser mot barn og foreldre.


Det største "publikummet" og tilhengerskaren mht. denne propagandaen er likevel alle de som ikke er rammet av såkalt barnevern. Ennå.

Kreftene bak er oppgitt å knyttet til den gruppen som kaller seg sakkyndige, og til politikere.


Imidlertid bør man følge med på at svært mange barnevernsangrepne befinner seg i den illusjon at det nå vil, dersom film-og lydopptak innføres, bli mye bedre for dem og barna deres. Kanskje vil til og med flere klare å beholde barna sine.

Det er virkelig å bedra seg selv, og en finner grunn til å advare om dette.

Flere småartikler om samme tema; sivilombudsmannen som eksempel: http://kommunal-rapport.no/artikkel/vil ... vernssaker

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Diverse lydopptak kan være små framganger der vi har en lang vei å gå. Jeg skulle gjerne sett noen legge slike ut på YouTube mens dommere avslører seg som nyttige idioter og mere til. Men så spørs det da om det er ment å deles ut til foreldre…

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Det er nok tillatt (enn så lenge) å ta opptak. Men det ønsker ikke retten, kan man ta gift på. Altså forbyr de at opptakene blir offentliggjort, eller i det hele tatt gjort kjent for noen som helst, og forbud mot videre opptak hvis forbud blir overtrådt. På samme måte som de hemmeligstempler dommer, unnlater å legge dem ut på Lovdata, unndrar fylkesnevndsvedtak fra all offentlighet, osv osv i uendelighet. Jeg har egen erfaring av dette - det ble gjort opptak i tingretten, så ble det forbudt å gjøre opptak i lagmannsretten fordi en i barnets familie hadde spredt kopier.

Allikevel er det meget bra å gjøre opptak; en dag kommer kanskje syndfloden, og da er det nyttig å kunne vise at barneverns-propagandistene ikke har talt sant.

  

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Det vekker ikke like mye forargelse hos folk flest, som hos folk som har fått tro på systemet gjennom negativ utdannelse.

Å legge ut på YouTube er en måte å tvinge systemet til åpenhet rundt sin perverse praksis.

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Selvsagt er det ikke politisk vilje til å bedre forholdene. Men rent prinsipielt så er dokumentasjon (film/lyd/nedtegnelser) positivt, og en av brikkene som må på plass. Om makten står for dette, så blir det ALLTID gjort.

Rent prinsipielt mener jeg ansvaret for all dokumentasjon ligger hos den som fremmer en beskyldning og bruker/vil bruke makt.

Men så lenge idioti regnes som faglig, så vil de støtte seg til at det som skjer er faglig korrekt. Da hjelper det lite at menigmann påpeker galskapen. Over sikt kan det imidlertid virke som opinionsdanning overfor de som ikke er fullstendig hjernevaskede.

Jeg oppfordrer imidlertid folk til å tvinge igjennom lydopptak/film gjennom at de selv setter opp filmkamera. Nekt å fjerne filmingen. La dommeren bruke politiet til å støtte seg i rettsløsheten. Ha skjult lydopptak i tillegg.
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