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OBS OBS: TV-program på nrk1 i kveld, klokken 22.30:

Programmet Migrapolis skal handle om barnevern.

Jeg var i tvil om hvorvidt jeg skulle sette inn denne meldingen under "Bv-vås" eller "BV-overgrep belyst", men jeg kan vanskelig tenke meg at det blir særlig belysning, så vi får ta sjansen på vås (det har mer enn 50 prosents sjanse til å være riktig - hvilket minner meg om hva en del psykologer sier skal til for å anbefale omsorgsovertagelse: bare mer enn 50% sannsynlighet for at det er "riktig".)


(Jeg setter inn denne meldingen ikke bare under "Media" men også på topp i seksjonen for nye lesere, for den blir lettest å se der, og det er bare tre og en halv time til. Arild kan fjerne dette innlegget fra "- for nye lesere" etter at programmet er ferdig.)

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Mitt første inntrykk er at de sveiper innom en masse mennesker... kan si de prøver å vise ulike aspekter ved Bv.
I en scene sitter det en representant for Familiestiftelsen hjemme hos et ektepar som vant i Fylkesnemnda, etter å ha blitt anklaget for vold. Inntrykket er at programmet inneholder svært mye informasjon, fra mange ulike mennesker. Derfor kan det være en fordel å se programmet flere ganger.

http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/841097/


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Jeg slo av tv'en da det i begynnelsen var latter og smil i forhold til ulike konstellasjoner mennesker i mellom. Kosestund nærmest.

Det hele fremstår som reklame for barnevern og er både vås og overgrep belyst - samtidig.

I tillegg til det er det farlig propaganda påført ukritiske seere som gir livsfarlige levekår for barn og familier.

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Selv om jeg forutså mye av det som skulle skje i programmet, er jeg sjokkert. De snakket om at alle offentlige ansatte har meldeplikt ved mistanke om mishandling i hjemmet.
Det var enighet om at de offentlige ansatte i framtida bør straffes ved manglende melding. Det kreves altså at de offentlig ansatte skal kunne forutsi alvorlige saker, (og dette betyr igjen mer fokus på "risikofamilier".)

Dessuten mener de det må være full åpenhet mellom offentlige etater som politi og Bv, siden disse likevel har taushetsplikt overfor resten av samfunnet!

Inga Marte Th. sa at alle barn alltid må bli trodd, for ingen barn lyver om vold og mishandling.
Hun berømmet Incestsenteret for å ha gitt veiledning til barnehagene.

I det hele tatt var det en meget sterk oppfordring om å tenke det verste av det verste! Barn skal læres opp til å melde sine kamerater til Bv, og til å få en forståelse av omsorgssvikt. Det ble også sagt at mange barn opplever omsorgssvikt.
Jeg håper flere ser at dette kanskje ikke er helt "klokt". Omsorgssvikten skal selvfølgelig alltid foregå i hjemmet, det er ikke rom for å mistenke at andre enn foreldrene kan være årsak til barnets atferdsendring, må vite.

Nå bør det jo poengteres at barn som lider bør reddes, men hva hvis Bv henlegger de vanskeligste tilfellene, og heller bryr seg om dem som er gode emner til funksjonelle fosterbarn? De mest skadde barna kan vel ikke fungere i fosterhjem i lengden. Har man barnehjem i Norge der disse kan være?

Sykehuslegen poengterte da også at han syntes Bv henla for mange saker der Sykehuset mente det hadde skjedd vold mot barn. Han sa at dette skyldtes at Bv hadde for få ressurser, men det han ikke tenkte på var at Bv kanskje prioriterer feil saker. Da hjelper det ikke å gi dem mer ressurser.

Det ble tatt opp i programmet at Bv har et veldig dårlig rykte blant folk, og det er bra at de innser dette faktum!
De ønsker selvsagt å fikse på dette med reklamekampanjer og slikt!
Men det hjelper ikke at alle offentlige ansatte skriker ut at Bv er helt ufarlige, når man faktisk vet at det ikke er slik.

Selv om dette høres alvorlig ut, er helseansatte fortsatt bundet av loven om taushetsplikt. Når noen ansatte melder kun på bakgrunn av "magefølelse", kan man egentlig klage på det i etterkant. Bv har fortsatt også taushetsplikt overfor politiet og andre etater. Helseansatte kan heller ikke straffes for å unnlate og melde det som viser seg å være et alvorlig tilfelle.
Håpet er at loven fortsatt kommer til å forsøke og ivareta foreldrenes rettssikkerhet også i framtida, men det ser jammen tvilsomt ut etter å ha hørt på en slik debatt der alle var 100% enige. :shock:


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