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Det er beklageligvis Toresens demokratiske rett å ta omsorgen for barn via nemnda, men han har ikke rett til å hente barn fra utlandet. Særlig ikke når det overprøver UDs anbefaling. Politikerne i Stavanger kommune reagerer på at det var mulig å overføre 500.000 kroner, gjennom det samme kommunale regnskapskontoret som de bruker.

Den tyrkiske faren skal være intervjuet i 2006, "– Nå er jeg stoffri. Den biologiske faren sier at narkotikaproblemene begynte da barna ble satt i fosterhjem i 2002." Han visste vel ikke at foreldre aldri må bryte sammen, selv når de blir fratatt barna sine.
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UDs offisielle "anbefalinger" er nok noe helt annet enn det de og andre av våre myndigheter foretar seg bak kulissene. Det er ikke slik at Toresen skiller seg spesielt ut fra andre, at han er den eneste skurken. Han er, tvert imot, virkelig ganske typisk.

Det eneste atypiske i saken er at såpass mye av virkeligheten kommer frem, til og med gjennom den offisielle pressen, som pleier å være til mere skade enn nytte i de fleste barnevernssaker.

Det er på tide å kaste ut forestillingene om at norske myndigheter og allierte kumpaner "egentlig" er så bra så bra i barnevernssammenheng.
  

  

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Vi kan lure på hvor ofte det offentlige sender hemmelige brev til regnskapsavdelingen. Toresen skrev i brevet: ".. på grunn av sakens meget delikate karakter er det nødvendig at transaksjonen ikke gjøres kjent."

De ansatte på regnskapsavdelingen hadde vel egentlig et ansvar for å slå alarm da de mottok dette brevet, med ønske om hemmelighold av en halv million kroner. Det må være meget plagsomt for de ansatte på regnskapsavd. Når vi vet at det er hemmeligholdt én episode, oppstår det også mistanke om det kan ha foregått flere lignende "delikate" overførsler.


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Tror ordet "demokratisk" ikke nødvendigvis betyr det samme som menneskerettighet, eller noe som automatisk er til folks beste. "Demokratiske rettigheter" betyr egentlig stemmerett og talerett innenfor en organisasjon, f.eks.
Men ordene brukes nok om hverandre. Her skriver regjeringen.no at det er en grunnleggende demokratisk rett for en elev å føle seg trygg på skolen og slippe å bli utsatt for overgrep og fornedrende behandling.
http://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dep/bld/te ... ?id=275352

Indirekte kan man si det er en rett for eleven å ferdes på skolen uten å være redd for å bli fornedret av politi og Bv... hvis man også inkluderer voksne blant de mulige skadevolderne.
Angående tyrkisk fengsel, bør det være skremmende for Bv at utlendinger er troende til å være mer brutale mot norske Bv-ansatte. Vi så tidligere at en irakisk familie teipet de Bv-ansatte fast til stolene sine, f.eks. http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/100216 ... t-i-hellas


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Se her: Stoltenberg skal belære Tyrkia om menneskerettigheter!


   - Tyrkia og Norge skal føre en dialog om menneskerettigheter, men statsminister Jens Stoltenberg ble avfeid da han brakte fengslede journalister på bane
Aftenbladet.no

Selv om diskusjonen "skal være knyttet til" spørsmål som angår OSSE, hvorfor i all verden går det ikke ilbud fra den tyrkiske ambassaden i Oslo nedover til myndighetene om å ta opp Stavanger-/Tyrkia-saken? Da ville tyrkerne ha adskillig mere grunn til å føyse Stoltenberg av enn når Stoltenberg snakker om journalister. Tyrkerne bør tilføye at norske myndigheter altså har medvirket til at en tidligere politimann ansatt i Kripos, Ola Thune, nå privat-etterforsker, har vært der nede og smuglet ut to tyrkiske barn, VEKK fra barnas foreldre og det tyrkiske barnevernet stikk i strid med pålegg fra tyrkisk rett (adskillig mere Rambo enn polakken som meget fortjenestefullt reddet den polske piken tilbake til hennes foreldre), at barnevernet har tviholdt barna hos en pedofil overgriper, og at det er ganske gjengs opptreden fra norsk barnevern som myndighetene lar dem drive på med så mye og lenge de vil.
  
  

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Foster"foreldrenes" advokat, Atle Helljesen, påberoper nødrett!

Det skal ha vært nødrett som fikk Carsten Flo & samboer/kone til å gå under jorden med de tyrkiske barna i Tyrkia, og til å smugle dem ut i tross mot tyrkisk domstol:



Når jeg tenker på hva fortvilete foreldre som prøver å redde sine barn, og deres hjelpere som gir dem husly, får av den norske stat: trakassering, fornedrelse, straffeprosess og fengsel, og så sammenligner det med dette svineriet fra Flo og norske myndigheter via Helljesen, så vet jeg ikke om nakken min tåler flere nei-rystinger på hodet.

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Jeg kan ikke se at denne artikkelen har vært lenket til? Så her er litt mer om dette usunne, nærmest brune, nettverket:


Aftenbladet, Stavanger, 20. januar 2012
  
  

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Barnevernsvakta jobber tett med politiet hver eneste dag, de har kontor på politistasjonen.

Aftenbladet.no har alle muligheter nå, til å fokuserer på barnevernets vesen. Dette handler ikke om "Tyrkia"-saken" eller "India"-saken", dette ér barnevernet. og det er alle barnevernssaker: Den totalte lovløshet. Men Aftenbladet fortsetter å fremstille India - saken som "spesiell".

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