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 Post subject: Re: Stavanger-/Tyrkia-saken
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Gunnar Toresen forsøker bruke PFU

Gunnar Toresen har fått nok av kritikk og forsøker kneble pressen. Han har klaget på behandlingen han har fått av Stavanger Aftenblad.

Vi har fått tak i PFU's dokument og lagt den ut her:

http://dokument.r-b-v.net/pfu-sak-nr-05 ... vernet.pdf

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Her har vi en politiker, Hilde Karlsen, som snur saken temmelig på hodet, akkurat som Stavanger barnevern og hele etablissementet i Stavanger har gjort i mange år:


Nå må Aftenbladet slutte å opptre som både anklager og dommer i en sak som ikke eksisterer, og som er avsluttet.
Aftenbladet, 6 oktober 2014

Men flere gode kommentarer under artikkelen.

Saksgangen i denne tråden har allerede vist: De to guttene var tatt fra sine foreldre med begrunnelser fra barnevernets side (for eksempel at foreldrene hadde blitt usams og skilt lag, men så var forsonet igjen) som var slik at den tyrkiske dommeren i Manavgat kom med særdeles skarpe uttalelser om Norges oppførsel. Han uttalte at slik uenighet mellom foreldre skjedde i nær sagt alle ekteskap, og at det var absurd å splitte familien på grunnlag av sånne argumenter. Guttene ble smuglet ut av Tyrkia av Ola Thune og fosterfolkene assistert av norske myndigheter, helt på tvers av tyrkisk rett, som hadde nedlagt utreiseforbud og bestemt at barna skulle utleveres til tyrkisk barnevern, som så skulle granske situasjonen og saken. Barna ble ikke utlevert til tyrkiske myndigheter, de ble holdt "under jorden" sammen med fosterfolkene, og Tyrkia gikk senere til politianmeldelse av Norge for den ulovlige unndragelsen og utsmuglingen.

Hvis guttene var i en vanskelig livssituasjon, var det fordi de var hos fosterfolkene Flo og samboer. Flos dro med dem på ferie til Tyrkia. Guttenes foreldre, som da bodde i Tyrkia, fikk greie på det fra forbindelser i Stavanger, og prøvet å få tak i guttene for å snakke med dem om situasjonen og hva guttene ønsket. Det var Flos, Stavanger barnevern som dro nedover, og norske myndigheter som hjalp til, som var kidnappere.

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Her har barnefjern.org lagt ut artikkelen om den halve millionen, den sex-overgreps-lystne fosterfaren, og ulovlighetene Stavanger foretok seg overfor familien Dündar. Det er bra at dette fortsatt huskes og minnes om, for barnevernet i Stavanger er langt fra blitt bedre siden den gang.


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Her er en litt eldre artikkel av advokat Olav Sylte hvor Manavgat-saken er ett av flere momenter. En del elementer i den beskrives i avsnittet "Kidnappingssaken er eksempel på omfattende uredelighet".


advokatsylte.no, 25 desember 2011


Artikkelen refererer også til en avslørende fylkesnevndsbehandling i en annen sak, og er frittalende nok. Merkelig er likevel, i lys av alt Sylte har skrevet ovenfor, artikkelens siste avsnitt (siste setning) – uvitenhet tross alt? Eller et forsøk på å godsnakke med maktapparatet? :

"Det må eksistere system som gjør at likegyldige dommere og nemndsledere som ikke er interessert i å lytte til partene, får andre mer tilrettelagte oppgaver som ikke ødelegger systemet innenfra. Heldigivs er det ikke mange slike."

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